An American pastor

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Inhumane_Swedish_Pastors.pdf)

A pastor in United States, who has received my email plea for practical Christian help during several years but who had ignored to offer practical help, finally replied with a response email. The American pastor suggested in his email responses that: (1) Torsten might be guilty of something deserving continual excommunications by churches, (2) Torsten is a jerk, (3) Torsten is a creep, and (4) Torsten is a problem.

The email dialogue with an American pastor is read chronologically from the bottom upwards beneath, with the most recent email at the top:

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Yo mamma

Instead of "peace out", why do you not just simply repent - as you should. There is not much peacefulness about your declarations that Torsten is a jerk, Torsten is a creep, and Torsten is a problem. Worse off, your statements are contextually to churches not even true.

Peace out.

Hello Barry Nall,

You wrote "If you are unable to find fellowship within the parameters and the authority of a local church, then perhaps the possibility that the larger part of the churches in the world are apostate. Unlikely." In this statement you appear to be suggesting, again, your interpreted probability that the problem is Torsten. Your new statement suggesting that Torsten is the problem, and not the churches, is similarly accusational to your former statement suggesting that Torsten is a jerk: "If, however, you get up one morning, go out, and everybody you meet is a jerk, then due consideration must be given to the fact that perhaps it is not ALL of them that are jerks, but instead the opposite may be true." Your denial of your judgemental statement that Torsten is creep enhances your insincerity, as you write "And you come off as sort of creepy. No judgement or condemnation."

Furthermore, you suggest that I would have been setting demands on any church, through your statement "You can't demand the church world to bow to your every demand, desire or wish." The truth is that I have never demanded anything unBiblical of any church anywhere on earth. To these English-speaking churches I have simply inquired if I am welcome to socialise with also other single Christians. Which unBiblical demands have I set on any church?

You claim that you have been praying for me, instead of wanting to be a solution by welcoming me. Therefore, I am curious to know what specifically you may have been praying about. What specifically did you pray?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

I am a pastor of 35 years. I picked that name back in the early 90's on the spur of the moment. I live on an American Indian reserve where I pastor a wonderful small fellowship. I have not offerd any help outside of prayer because I am no position to do more. And you come off as sort of creepy. No judgement or condemnation. Just the truth.

First of all my name is Barry. And as far as excommunication, does this mean you regard yourself excommunicated? I don't think anyone with exception of the Lord Himself can excommunicate you. I suppose they have the right to prohibit your attendance if they feel you are creating a distraction. So, that's a question. I have been reading your notes for some time. I have compassion for, prayed for you. I was not calling you a jerk. I was suggesting that maybe you put yourself in the shoes of these haters, try to understand why they put off by you. If you are una,ble to find fellowship within the parameters and the authority of a local church, then perhaps the possibility that the larger part of the churches in the world are apostate. Unlikely. You can't demand the church world to bow to your every demand, desire or wish. It is not about you or me, it is about Him.

Another thing to be considered is what is profile of a companion you are seeking? If one much younger, here in the States that would be regarded as a red light.

Hello Mr. Zoeman,

Firstly, would you like to tell me who you are? Are you a pastor of an existent church? Why do you call yourself Zoeman? Why do you sometimes refer to yourself on Internet as "Pastor Barry L. Nall"? Are you roaming between tiny churches without a congregation, or between imaginary churches?

Secondly, your email address may have received my plea for Christian help for a number of years. Did you offer to help during those years?

From your email response, it seems that you are suggesting that I might be guilty of something deserving continual excommunications by churches. You also appear to be suggesting that the evidenced reality of churches not welcoming me to communicate with other singles, is related to my person or to my conduct. You may also be interpreted to be suggesting that I am a jerk.

During the number of years that you have received my plea for Christian help, did you read any of the letters? If you did read any of the letters sent to you, did you notice that no church was capable to provide a reality-based reason justifying their excommunication?

Is your thought that I am the jerk, and that the excommunicating pastors of churches are acting in alignment to God's Word and will?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Torsten,

I have been receiving emails from you for a number of years now, though they all have been unsolicited. However, I do have a comment to make. I am a citizen of the United States of America, and also a southerner by birth. Here is what I would say to you from my perspective: If you get up one morning, go out, and meet a jerk of a human being, then what has happened is that you have met a jerk, If, however, you get up one morning, go out, and everybody you meet is a jerk, then due consideration must be given to the fact that perhaps it is not ALL of them that are jerks, but instead the opposite may be true. Just a thought.

Zoeman