Devilish “Windsor Park Baptist Church” in Auckland, New Zealand, evicted and excommunicated a Christian who is absolutely innocent in relation to all excommunications by churches, through their Senior Pastor Grant Harris. The senior pastor Grant Harris requested that the Christian would not attend their public “service”, demanded that the Christian must leave their church premises, and called the police to have the Christian removed. The hostile Baptist church outlandishly alluded that the innocent Christian was promiscuous. The Baptist church clearly indicated that they and other church ministers slander and conspire against Torsten with false accusations.

(http://www.windsorpark.org.nz)

 

 

 

 

On Sunday evening Feb. 23, 2014, Windsor Park Baptist Church in Auckland, New Zealand, through their devilish senior pastor Grant Harris, evicted Torsten from their church and called the police to ensure the removal of Torsten from their church premises. Earlier on the same Sunday, Feb. 23 2014, two other churches in Auckland had similarly evicted Torsten and called the police to remove Torsten: both Elim Christian Centre (http://www.kyrkor.be/Elim-Christian-Centre-Auckland.htm), and City Presbyterian Church (http://www.kyrkor.be/City-Presbyterian-Church-Auckland.htm) had evicted and called the police earlier on that Sunday. Windsor Park Baptist Church indicated that the satanic Baptist Tabernacle Church (http://www.kyrkor.be/Auckland-Baptist-Tabernacle-Church-with-Lyndon-Drake.htm) had contacted other churches in Auckland with disinformation about Torsten.

 

Torsten arrived at Windsor Park Baptist Church in Auckland 45 minutes early at 17:45 with intention to attend a Sunday evening public “service” scheduled for 18:30, on Feb.23 2014. Windsor Park Baptist Church advertised its 18:30 “service” on the church’s website as “Young Adult Flavour”, and a church staff had in a direct email suggested this particular meeting as a possibility for fellowship and friendship. As Torsten entered the church building, only one other person was present in the entry hall; who was busy studying something on a mobile phone. Torsten placed himself standing alone in the church’s entry hall to wait. After ten minutes at 17:55 a man approached Torsten and began to speak. The man asked for Torsten’s name and Torsten answered, but the manner in which the approaching man spoke and his eyes clearly indicated that he had unfriendly intentions, and therefore Torsten immediately took out his mobile phone and began a recording.

 

The man who approached Torsten in the entry hall of Windsor Park Baptist Church was an Elder of their church. The elder of Windsor Park Baptist Church said the following statements to Torsten: I’ve had some reports that perhaps some of your motives for coming might not be as Christian. I’m a bit concerned upon the advice of my pastor. The pastor sent me an email about you. The pastor said your motives for coming were not quite as honourable. My concern is that your motives aren’t as honourable as perhaps you’re making out. The pastor said to be aware that you might be coming.

 

Windsor Park Baptist Church falsely accused Torsten of looking for several women; alluding that Torsten would be promiscuous and sexually immoral: You’re looking for a young lady or two. You’re looking for young ladies.” Nothing could be further from the truth, as Torsten has been sexually abstinent for the past 22 (twenty two) years, and Torsten has faithfully been praying daily, often with tears, for marriage to a woman of God’s choice during the past 19 (nineteen) years. False accusations and lies essentially always dominate the lips of pastors of churches, because pastors normally have no interest in truth, reality or facts.

 

Windsor Park Baptist Church expressed that their church did not want Torsten to attend their public “service”, said that Torsten was not welcome on their church premises, asked Torsten to leave, and called the police to have Torsten removed: I would prefer it if you didn’t attend. Pastor Grant Harris would like to see you off the premises actually. If pastor Grant Harris wants to call the police that’ll be fine, and if he says call the police I’ll call the police. So are you gonna leave or not? Because I think the police are on their way as well. We’ll wait to see what the police want with you.

 

As usual with many (most?) churches, satan demonstrates that he governs also Windsor Park Baptist Church in Auckland, New Zealand, through their Senior Pastor Grant Harris.

 

 

 

 

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These are the three audio recordings of the conversation between a church Elder, Senior Pastor Grant Harris and Torsten on Sunday evening at 17:55, 18:05 and 18:09, Feb.23, 2014 inside the entry hall of Windsor Park Baptist Church in Auckland, New Zealand. The beneath transcriptions are as accurate as I am capable to hear.

 

·         Recording Phase 1 of conversation, with a church Elder: [MP3-file at 2.5 MB, 5:10 min]: http://www.kyrkor.be/Windsor_Park_Baptist_Church_Auckland_Elder_140223_PHASE-1_mp3.mp3

·         Recording Phase 2 of conversation, with the church Elder: [MP3-file at 870 kB, 1:50 min]: http://www.kyrkor.be/Windsor_Park_Baptist_Church_Auckland_Elder_140223_PHASE-2_mp3.mp3

·         Recording Phase 3 of conversation, with Senior Pastor Grant Harris: [MP3-file at 380 kB, 50 sec]: http://www.kyrkor.be/Windsor_Park_Baptist_Church_Auckland_Grant_Harris_140223_PHASE-3_mp3.mp3

 

 

 

TRANSCRIPT (Phase 1) an Elder:

 

ELDER:   What brings you to Windsor Park?

TORSTEN:   I’m just visiting.

ELDER:   Are you? Ok. Well, is this the first time you’ve been to a church? Ok. I guess I would love to understand what brings you here?

TORSTEN:   Umm, you’re a Christian community?

ELDER:   Yes.

TORSTEN:   I’m a Christian.

ELDER:   Ok. Alright. Good. I guess I’m concerned cause I’ve had some reports that perhaps some of your motives for coming might not be as Christian, perhaps.

TORSTEN:   Do you want to tell me about it. [difficult to hear the exact words]

ELDER:   Oh, just concerns […] that you’re looking for a young lady. Eh. A young lady or two.

TORSTEN:   A young lady or two?

ELDER:   You’re looking for young ladies [plural]. Yeah.

TORSTEN:   [difficult to hear the exact words]

ELDER:   As a church, I guess that is a concern […] my concern […] So I guess my concern is with a youth group in particular.

TORSTEN:   [difficult to hear the exact words] You have a concern to why?

ELDER:   Would you like to answer it?

TORSTEN:   I just told you. This is a Christian community. I’m a Christian.

ELDER:   Ok. Cause I’m a bit concerned that, eh - that you’ve been asked to leave other places […] [difficult to hear the exact words] they’ve issued a notice to you for coming. I believe they have issued a [premises-ban?] notice about you. Is that correct?

TORSTEN:   That’s correct.

ELDER:   Why would they do that?

TORSTEN:   That’s a good question. You should ask them.

ELDER:   […] So I’m just a bit concerned that why would anyone issue someone a [church-ban?].

TORSTEN:   That’s a good question. Have you addressed the question to them?

ELDER:   I’m now addressing the question to you.

TORSTEN:   Ok. Shouldn’t you ask them, why they … ?

ELDER:   Because they were disturbed that, why you came. That’s why. And I just, my concern is, what is, what is you motive for coming. I know there’s, that would be a bit of a concern.

TORSTEN:   Hmm. What motive is your concern?

ELDER:   Yes, I’ve not met you before, so it’s very difficult for me to say one way or another. But I’m a bit concerned upon the advice of my pastor, and, he sent me an email about you, so that concerns.

TORSTEN:   Sorry, are you a minister?

ELDER:   No.

TORSTEN:   What is your role?

ELDER:   I’m an elder.

TORSTEN:   An elder.

ELDER:   And my role is to oversee the church.

TORSTEN:   What is the pastor? Who’s your pastor?

ELDER:   Grant Harris.

TORSTEN:   Grant?

ELDER:   Harris.

TORSTEN:   Harris. Ok. Grant Harris sent you an email. What did Grant Harris ?

ELDER:   He said that we half expected you to come, next week, so just to be aware that you might be coming, and that you’ve been, you know, been asked to leave, eh, that’s what resonates […] [difficult to hear the exact words] to expect next week that might be the case. Most people would be asked to leave […]

TORSTEN:   Didn’t you ask the pastor Harris why I … ?

ELDER:   No. They felt quite clearly that they felt your motives for coming were not quite as honourable as perhaps the impression.

TORSTEN:   What do you want to do?

ELDER:   I would prefer it if you didn’t attend tonight. Ok?

TORSTEN:   That didn’t sound ok.

ELDER:   Ok. Well, then I would probably have to talk to Grant and maybe call the police. But that’s ok.

TORSTEN:   Ok, so you want to call the police?

ELDER:   I’ll talk to Grant first, but if you want to stay that’s fine. I’ll phone and get advice from Grant - and see – if he wants to call the police that’ll be fine.

ELDER:   Ok, so I won’t do anything apart from talk to Grant and see what he says, and if he says call the police I’ll call the police.

TORSTEN:   Yup. So I wait for you to come back?

ELDER:   Sure. Ok. See you.

[The Elder walked away towards the church offices. Several minutes later, the elder returned to Torsten, who remained standing in the entry hall, and the elder resumed conversation.]

 

 

 

TRANSCRIPT (Phase 2) the Elder:

 

ELDER:   Grant is on his way.

TORSTEN:   He is on his way? Ok.

ELDER:   You’re recording this are you?

TORSTEN:   Yeah, yeah. That’s ok.

ELDER:   Why would you do that?

TORSTEN:   Oh, cause this is, you know, evidence for everybody to know how you treat Christians.

ELDER:   Ah, ok, good. Very good. Ok. My concern is that your motives aren’t as honourable as perhaps you’re making out.

TORSTEN:   You feel that way?

ELDER:   That’s the concern I have. Absolutely. I would never, um, refuse anyone admission into a church unless I feel comfortable. Clearly I’m not comfortable.

TORSTEN:   Hmm. And your discomfort is because your pastor said to …

ELDER:   It’s not just one. It’s not just one, he-he. If it was I would just … that would be a surprise. But it’s not just one – it’s a number.

TORSTEN:   Who are the others?

ELDER:   Ah, I’m not willing to. I’m not gonna. You see. I’m not gonna start giving you ammunition.

TORSTEN:   Mhmm.

ELDER:   Yeah.

TORSTEN:   When is the pastor gonna come here?

ELDER:   It’s very shortly.

TORSTEN:   Very shortly.

ELDER:   So are you gonna leave or not. Because I think the police are on their way as well.

TORSTEN:   Ok.

ELDER:   Ok.

TORSTEN:   Yup.

ELDER:   So. So you’re staying?

TORSTEN:   Yeah. If the pastor wants to see me that’s ok.

ELDER:   I think he wants. Ha ha. Ok. You can stay there. I think he’d like to see you off the premises actually.

TORSTEN:   But he hasn’t said so.

ELDER:   Ahh, well, not to you, no. Ok.

TORSTEN:   So you want me to stay and wait for him?

ELDER:   That’s your choice. That’s your choice. That’s entirely your choice.

TORSTEN:   Mhmm.

ELDER:   Yeah.

TORSTEN:   ok

ELDER:   ok

TORSTEN:   I’ll wait for a few minutes for him to come here.

ELDER:   Ok then.

[Torsten remained standing in the same position. After some minutes, their Senior Pastor Grant Harris entered the church entry hall and marched directly towards Torsten in a manner resembling someone who thinks greatly of himself, but with a jovial voice. The recording was resumed.]

 

 

 

TRANSCRIPT (Phase 3) senior pastor Grant Harris:

 

GRANT HARRIS:   I’m Grant. I’m the senior pastor here.

TORSTEN:   You’re the senior pastor here. What’s your last name Grant?

GRANT HARRIS:   Grant Harris.

TORSTEN:   Good to meet you.

GRANT HARRIS:   Have you run … ok … are you recording me and putting on the internet like everyone else.

GRANT HARRIS:   [Grant Harris asks to the elder] Have you rung the police?

ELDER:   Yeah – nah.

GRANT HARRIS:   We’ll wait for them to arrive and they can fill it out.

TORSTEN:   And what do you want with me?

GRANT HARRIS:   I have no idea. They wanna to see you. The pastor of the Tabernacle [http://www.kyrkor.be/Auckland-Baptist-Tabernacle-Church-with-Lyndon-Drake.htm] on Friday said they want to catch up with you.

TORSTEN:   Mhmm. Ok.

GRANT HARRIS:   Good.

GRANT HARRIS:   Why are you recording me?

TORSTEN:   Just wondering what you want.

GRANT HARRIS:   I don’t know.

TORSTEN:   Ok.

GRANT HARRIS:   We’ll wait to see what the police want with you.

TORSTEN:   Ok.

[Grant Harris terminated communication with Torsten and quickly walked away from the entry hall in direction towards his church offices. Torsten turned off the recording, remained standing in the same spot for several minutes awaiting the possibility of resumption of communication, and then departed from the church premises.]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The email dialogue with Windsor Park Baptist Church in Auckland, New Zealand, is read chronologically from the bottom upwards beneath, with the most recent email at the top:

 

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Date:

Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:16:48 +1300

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

Amanda Pilbrow <Amanda.Pilbrow@windsorpark.org.nz>, Grant Harris <Grant.Harris@windsorpark.org.nz>, Sam Burrows <sam.burrows@windsorpark.org.nz>, Rick Pierce <Rick.Pierce@windsorpark.org.nz>, Sue Ogilvie <Sue.Ogilvie@windsorpark.org.nz>

Subject:

Christian meetings

 

Windsor Park Baptist Church,

 

Hi,

 

You did not reply to my response. Please do so. Thanks.

 

Regards,

 

Torsten Nenzen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Thu, 30 Jan 2014 12:23:28 +1300

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

Amanda Pilbrow <Amanda.Pilbrow@windsorpark.org.nz>

Subject:

RElder:   Christian meetings

 

Good-day Amanda Pilbrow,

 

Thanks for replying.

 

Of course I courteously socialise with persons of all ages and backgrounds or circumstances, but for my personal objective I look to connect with persons who:

1) love Jesus Christ more than they love anyone else (1st priority)

2) are single

3) are in the 30's (or late 20’s)

 

I highly value truth, honesty and sincerity in inter-personal communications, and enjoy lengthy conversations.

 

Personal interests normally relate to endurance sports, but due to a recent knee operation I am restricted from marathons the next couple of months. However, all ‘normal’ outdoor activities are of interest.

 

Prior to Feb. 9th , are there other groups or activities with opportunities to meet and communicate with other singles?

 

Best regards,

 

Torsten Nenzen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Wed, 29 Jan 2014 20:08:03 +0000

From:

Amanda Pilbrow <Amanda.Pilbrow@windsorpark.org.nz>

To:

torsten@nenzen.net <torsten@nenzen.net>

CC:

Grant Harris <Grant.Harris@windsorpark.org.nz>, Sam Burrows <sam.burrows@windsorpark.org.nz>, Rick Pierce <Rick.Pierce@windsorpark.org.nz>, Sue Ogilvie <Sue.Ogilvie@windsorpark.org.nz>

Subject:

RELDER:   Christian meetings

 

Good morning Torsten.

 

Thank you for your email. Here at Windsor we have several cell groups, friendship groups and services that will hopefully be in the areas of fellowship and friendship you are looking for.

 

It would be a good idea if I could get an indication of your age and interests so that we can direct you to the appropriate group.

 

We have a Young Adults service on a Sunday night (starting again 9th Feb) and this group consists mostly of 18-30 year olds and we have several cell groups running throughout the year. We also have 3 morning services that covers a wider range of ages and interest groups.

 

Look forward to hearing from you and directing you to the appropriate group.

 

Take care…

Amanda Pilbrow

Pastor for Young Adults

 

Call mElder:   (09) 477-0002   Mob. 027 413 5296

Fax mElder:   (09) 478-5126

Email mElder:   amanda.pilbrow@windsorpark.org.nz

We're onlinElder:   www.windsorpark.org.nz

Come over: 550 East Coast Road, Mairangi Bay, Auckland 0630, NZ

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Wed, 29 Jan 2014 22:35:59 +1300

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

grant.harris@windsorpark.org.nz, amanda.pilbrow@windsorpark.org.nz, sam.burrows@windsorpark.org.nz, rick.pierce@windsorpark.org.nz, sue.ogilvie@windsorpark.org.nz

Subject:

Christian meetings

 

Dear Windsor Park Baptist Church,

 

Hi.

 

I am a Christian single man here in Auckland. I seek a Christian community in Auckland where I also might find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles.

 

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?

 

Are there fellowship groups, community groups, cell groups or small groups in your church that I can attend?

 

Best regards,

 

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net